A Little Tombstone History...
Subject: Val Mentions in Holliday bioraphies #1Today's mail brought my book order from the Real West Publishing, "Aristocracy's Outlaw" by Sylvia D. Lynch, and "The Illustrated Life and Times of Doc Holliday".
The latter book is the one which the catalog claimed would answer the question about who made a better Doc, Val or Quaid. Well, here's what the book itself says on the subject:
(Note: above this article is an artist's rendition of Val and Quaid as Doc--gotta admit, the likenesses are VERY tenuous so I was glad that a caption was included--back to back guns pointed straight up in the air. The caption reads: You're No Daisy: Val Kilmer, (left) and Dennis Quaid squared off as Doc Holliday in the two most recent film depictions of the Deadly Dentist. When the smoke cleared, both had scored a bullseye." Oooops! Just read the artist credit--its the author! Yikes!)
DUELING DOCS
"Dennis Quaid portrayed Doc Holliday in 1994s 'Wyatt Earp' as Bat Masterson described the Deadly Dentist in 1907: 'Physically, Doc Holliday was a weakling, who could not have whipped a healthy fifteen year old boy....and the knowledge of this fact was perhaps why he was so ready to resort to a weapon of some kind whenever he got himself into difficulty. He was hot-headed and impetuous, and very much given to both drinking and quarrelling, and among men who did not fear him, was very much disliked.
"Val Kilmer's slant on Doc in 1993s 'Tombstone', however, mirrors Wyatt Earp's eulogy to Holliday, written in 1896. 'He was a dentist, but he preferred to be a gambler. He was a Virginian, but preferred to be a frontiersman and vagabond. He was a philosopher, but he preferred to be a wag. He was long, lean, and ash blond and the quickest man with a six-shooter I ever knew.'
"Both performances are dead on."
There is a photo of an alleged Holliday portrait beside the Dueling Docs article. It shows a man looking like Holliday who sports the handlebar moustache and the imperial goatee. The following caption lies below: "SPLITTING HAIRS: Both Val Kilmer and Dennis Quaid chose to portray Doc with an imperial (the triangle of whiskers under the lower lip). There is only one alleged photo of Doc Holliday that shows him wearing an imperial (above). Ironically, the photo is not of Doc Holliday."
This page is faced by one which features a black and white shot of Val and Kurt from Tombstone ( on horseback, looking back over their shoulders). Beneath this is a full color version of the video box (it so appears anyway!) There is a small article and a caption, they follow below:
"DOC OUTLIVES 'WYATT EARP'
Dennis Quaid's performance in 'Wyatt Earp' is too richly realized to be ignored. Warner Brothers and Kevin Costner were reluctant to share stills from their film with us (Warner Brother's legal department denied us the right to publish any photos from the film). Quaid devastated his body by shedding forty-some pounds to capture the comsumptive, cadaver-like Holliday. Bellicose, bilious and as unsavory as a festering canker, this version of Doc Holliday beautifully captures the quality of character which so alienated virtually all who met him. Here we have dissipation personified. Dennis Quaid deserves and Oscar."
The caption to the Tombstone photo reads as follows:
"Val Kilmer (left) as Doc and Kurt Russell as Wyatt set out on the vengeance trail in 1993s "Tombstone". Kevin Jarre spent well over a year crafting a script that reflected not only history but also the other Earp-Holliday movies. For instance, when the Earps arrive in Tombstone, Virgil (Sam Elliott) mutters the line, 'What kind of town is this?' This was a line of Henry Fonda's in 'My Darling Clementine'. When Doc is leaving Kate (in a scene cut from the film but available on laserdisc) he asks, 'Have you no kind word for me before I ride away?" This is a wonderful play on the lyrics to Dimitri Tiompkins theme song for 'The Gunfight at the OK Corral". The lyrics went in part: 'Have you no kind word to say before I ride away?'"Lisa
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Subject: Val mentions in Holliday bios pt 2 & Earp/Doc 1st meeting
Aristocracy's Outlaw contains the following references to Val and "Tombstone"
"Just when it looked as though the story was destined to be forgotten material, Hollywood Pictures brought it back in 1993 in a most dramatic fashion, and the impact was phenomenal and far-reaching. With the release of George P. Cosmatos's TOMBSTONE, the people and events as they came together in Southern Arizona in the fall of 1881 were suddenly given new prominence on the market. All at once, the Earp brothers and John Holliday were real people again, and it seemed the public couldn't get enough of hearing their stories once more. Kurt Russell played the intense and driven Wyatt Earp, and for the first time his brothers Virgil and Morgan were presented as well-rounded, believable characters by Sam Elliott and Bill Paxton.
"There can be no doubt, however, that the featured role was Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday. From the first moment Kilmer appeared on screen he was a scene stealer and totally captured the audience's interest, their sympathy and their admiration. Kevin Jarre's screenplay was one of the overall accurate chronicles of the turmoil in and around Tombstone ever done, and it was apparent that Kilmer had done his homework. There was a myriad of details evident in his performance right down to minute gestures and mannerisms which demonstrated careful study of his character for the role. ((NOTE to the on-going Billy the Kid discussions: the same can be said of that role --Lisa )) One particularly remarkable scene which clearly illustrates his attention to detail was in the climactic scene when Doc faces off against Ringo. Even though the event itself is fictitious, Kilmer's process is remarkably accurate. Colonel John T. Deweese, an attorney who occasionally represented Mr. Holliday, claimed that Doc had a technique he employed when he was involved in actual gunplay whereby for a split second his face took on a retreating, almost frightened expression. His opponent would catch that brief moment of hesitancy and uncertainty and drop his guard for the most microscopic space of time--just enough time for Doc to finish the job. Deweese's recollection is intriguing, and one wonders if Doc were indeed really frightened for a moment or if he was using a deliberate ploy. During the Doc/Ringo scene in TOMBSTONE, Kilmer mirrors the tactic in a cut just before he goads Ringo one last time.
"Kilmer's interpretation of Doc Holliday showed a man who was polished and refined, yet at the same time irritating and exasperating, and was overall a good composite of all that was John Holliday. He was very obviously alone, even in a crowd, and he was persistent to the point of obstinance. The real Doc was both likeable and detestable, and Kilmer brings that paradox to the screen beautifully. Everything that is known about the real John Holliday came together nicely in Kilmer's portrayal, and his brilliant performance made a sort of cult hero of Doc.
"After the release of TOMBSTONE bookstores could suddenly not keep information about him, and museums and libraries were bombarded with requests to know more about the real Doc Holliday. Mr. Kilmer and his co-stars had succeeded in piquing the interest of the public, and the effects would prove
to be long-lasting. Even though TOMBSTONE was passed over when the Academy Awards were handed out, it proved to be a box office favorite. Video stores began receiving requests for the old classics about the OK Corral, and the Western genre enjoyed a revival that transcended different media. The Western was back, the year after TOMBSTONE's release, there were reportedly sixty-five Westerns in production in Hollywood.
"About one year later, Warner Brothers released its very ambitious version of the saga of Wyatt Earp and company. The more than 3 hour epic related Wyatt Earp's entire life and was largely a very factual account. Again the scenes with Doc Holliday are some of the more memorable in the film, and Dennis Quaids performance is outstanding. As far as physical appearance, Quaid most definitely outsteps any other actor ever cast as Doc Holliday. In preparing for the role, he lost more than forty pounds and his gaunt frame and sunken face were very accurate representations of Doc's appearance in the 1880s. Like Val Kilmer's, Dennis Quaid's portayal captured the many faceted personality of John Holliday very well. His characterization ranged from that of a pathetic, pitiable figure to an exacerbatin individual, the transformation occuring in a matter of seconds, and yet there was always the underlying element of grace and performance, and he expertly showed the prismatic quality of Holliday's demeanor. Throughout the film, he just seemed to be enduring, a befitting comment on the state of John Holliday's existence at the time."
The chapter containing this commentary is followed immediatly by a black and white full page photo of Val as Doc ( medium shot, on horseback, hat on, clothing dark, looking off into the distance) with the following caption: "Val Kilmer in Hollywood Pictures' 1993 box office hit Tombstone, superbly resurrected John Holliday after an almost twenty year absence from the screen. Kilmer was outstanding and the film sparked a new interest in the whole Tombstone era."
Backing this page is a full page b & w still of Quaid as Holliday, similar set up, a bit less than medium shot, on horseback, but with gun drawn and pointed skyward, with the following caption: "In 1994 Warner Bros. released Wyatt Earp close on the heels of Tombstone. Dennis Quaid was right on target with his interpretation of the gentleman from Georgia. He definitely gets the prize for physical resemblance."
These bios, by the way, do mention that the "Rudabaugh" meeting in Ft. Griffin was the first introduction of Wyatt to Doc and vice versa, but both quote Earp as saying that it was the incident where Doc unexpectedly came out of nowhere and saved him from ambush as the birth moment of their friendship. Wyatt had expected to die in that moment, and Doc saving him led him to state: "I'm a friend of Doc Holliday because when I was city marshal of Dodge City, Kansas, he came to my rescue and saved my life when I was surrounded by desperadoes."
Lisa
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Earp and Holliday books from The Early West Publishers
I got a catalog today that has some items that might be of some interest to Tombstone fans. It is from a small, women owned publishing company called "The Early West" and offers a variety of books on U.S. history of the West, and usually devotes at least a page or two each catalog to the Earps or O.K. Corrall fight.
Included this time are titles such as: THE EARPS TALK edited by Alford Turner, hc $19.95 from which a passage is quoted: "And so I marshal my characters. My stalwart brothers, Virgil, Morgan, shall stand on the right of the stage with my dear old comrade Doc Holliday; on the left shall be arrayed Ike Clanton, Sheriff Behan, Curly Bill and the rest....Nor shall a heroine be wanting for Big Nose Kate was shaped for the part by nature and circumstance. Poor Kate! Froniter whiskey must have laid her low long since.... Wyatt Earp, August 2, 1896"
THE EARP DECISION by Jack DeMattos (this covers Wyatt's involvement in the heavyweight championship boud between Robert Fitzsimmons and Tom Sharkey in 1896 in San Francisco. HC $21.95
THE OK CORRALL INQUEST by Alford Turner (includes all testimony of participants and witnesses heard at Coroners Inquest and the monthlong Wells Spicer Hearing) HC $19.95.
JOHN RINGO THE FINAL HOURS, by Michael M. Hickey, due August 1995, HC $39.95
STREET FIGHT IN TOMBSTONE, NEAR THE OK CORRALL by M.M. Hickey, (stiff pictorial wrappers) $19.95
THE COWBOY CONSPIRACY TO CONVICT THE EARPS my M.M. Hickey, SC, $23.95
ILLUSTRATED LIFE AND TIMES OF WYATT EARP by Bob Boze Bell, HC $35 (due August 1995) or SC (stiff pictorial wrappers) $25
Of special interest to those interested in finding out more about Doc Holliday:
ARISTOCRACY'S OUTLAW by Sylvia D. Lynch, "the story of a remarkable man in an astonishing fight to cheat death through sheer will and determination, while deliverately taunting fate the whole way. It is the story of a gambler who played the hand he was dealt by fate in the best way he saw fit....the somewhat tragic story...the true life story of John Holliday, aristocracy's outlaw." 312 pp, index, sources, photos, notes, SC $25.00
and:
THE ILLUSTRATED LIFE AND TIMES OF DOC HOLLIDAY by Bob Boze Bell. "In addition to never before published photos and a scene by scene account of the gunfight, Boze will also delve into the question of the year---Who was better, Val Kilmer as Doc in Tombstone or Dennis Quaid as Doc in Wyatt Earp? Which one of the "Dueling Docs" captures the true spirit of John Jenry Holliday? Read the story of his life and decide for yourself.
1st ed. HC $35
SC $25.Also in this catalog are several books on Billy the Kid ,including one by Bob Boze Bell same size, format as the aforementioned books on Wyatt and Doc. The Lincoln County War also sports several titles They also have coffee mugs with your choice of Billy the kid, Wild Bill Hickock, Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday, Pat Garrett, Jesse James and Bat Masterson--individual price $5.95, or a set of five, (your choice) for $19.95.
If interested in any of the above, they have a number for credit card ordering: 1-800-245-5841. Or you may write them for a catalog or to order: THE EARLY WEST, Box 9292, College Station TX 77842 ph. 409-775-6047.
Lisa